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Comment by crazygringo

7 hours ago

It does, however, easily get lost or left behind.

Phones, on the other hand, can be charged. And if they're smashed, you can just log into your account on a friend's phone if you haven't replaced yours yet. If you can't even do that, you can go to the ticket window and they can look up your account information and verify your ticket.

Paper doesn't spy on you.

  • If you don't give the app any permissions, it doesn't spy on you either.

    It doesn't have any more information than the info you give it to buy the tickets in the first place.

    • > It doesn't have any more information than the info you give it to buy the tickets in the first place.

      Many apps ask for permission to use your GPS position and other sensor data, even though they don't need it. Most non-technical people don't understand what that means and will just allow it.

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    • >If you don't give the app any permissions, it doesn't spy on you either.

      We're talking about an 81 year-old who has never had a smartphone before and you're starting the sentence with "if"? And that's just that app, not the phone itself or anything else that someone brand new to, and ignorant towards, this ecosystem is going to encounter and not know what to do with.

    • > If you don't give the app any permissions, it doesn't spy on you either.

      What about the other apps? What about the phone itself?

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In New York the commuter trains use etickets and if you smash your phone you can just log into your account on a friends phone, but they track how many times you do that any only allow 3 switches. They don't say 3 switches in a certain period, it just says you can only log in 3 times and then the account is locked. After that you have to call them -- and who knows what....