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Comment by sigbottle

4 months ago

I think the terminology is just dogshit in this area. LLMs are great semantic searchers and can reason decently well - I'm using them to self teach a lot of fields. But I inevitably reach a point where I come up with some new thoughts and it's not capable of keeping up and I start going to what real people are saying right now, today, and trust the LLM less and instead go to primary sources and real people. But I would have never had the time, money, or access to expertise without the LLM.

Constantly worrying, "is this a superset? Is this a superset?" Is exhausting. Just use the damn tool, stop arguing about if this LLM can get all possible out of distribution things that you would care about or whatever. If it sucks, don't make excuses for it, it sucks. We don't give Einstein a pass for saying dumb shit either, and the LLM ain't no Einstein

If there's one thing to learn from philosophy, it's that asking the question often smuggles in the answer. Ask "is it possible to make an unconstrained deity?" And you get arguments about God.

do they reason? Where was a video by AI researcher, that showed, that they do not reason but actually come with the result first and then try to invent "reasoning" to match it.

  • I mean humans do that too, and I don't think it's very unjustified. The "we deduce from a deep base premise P down a chain of inferences" picture is extremely incomplete and has been challenged all over the place - by normal people, by analytic and continental philosophers, by science itself, etc.

    Not trying to say that LLM's are equivalent to humans but that the concept of reasoning is undefined.

    And the fact that their performance does increase when using test-time compute is empirical evidence that they're doing something that increases their performance on tasks that we consider would require reasoning. As to what that is, we don't know.

    • But humans verify things. AI just fools you and I would say it is the biggest problem.I have with AIs.

      They give me stuff that I do not know whether to trust or not and what surprises I will find down the way later.

      So now my task is to review everything, remove cruft. It starts to compete against investing my time to deep-think and do it thoughtfully from the get go and come up with something simpler, with less code and/or that I understand better.

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