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Comment by close04

13 hours ago

That's a crazy way to defend an ongoing genocide. The scale is so different that the only way to miss it is willful bad faith.

How long and how far do you go with that justification? Does it work the other way too? Are "their" actions justified forever because of something wrong that was done to them? Can anyone in the world do to you anything and everything forever if they were ever wronged by someone born in the same general geographic area as you?

Whenever you find yourself defending any genocide, under any excuse, defending the killing of innocent children because some other guys from the same general area also killed people, you are the bigger problem and no amount of fresh accounts justifying it makes you better.

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dgxyz  13 hours ago

I didn't defend. I just pointed out that the "freedom fighters" in everyone's minds are raping murdering bastards and I refuse to take a moral position and support or defend them for it.

That in itself is an abhorrent position and I am disgusted at anyone who takes it.

And further extrapolation as you edited it, if a child has a gun pointing at your head and has been trained to fire it at you, which is exactly what they have been doing, then they are legally combatants. But it makes a good statistical and PR job which is just as abhorrent. Legally and statistically speakingh, children... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD2FezhJgqA

I would not do this to MY children.

  • close04  13 hours ago

    > I didn't defend.

    Didn't you?

    > if a child has a gun pointing at your head

    That sure sounds like defending the killing of children because for sure they were all holding a gun and trying to kill you. Including the babies.

    If you show all the YouTube videos in the world, the moment when you find a justification to kill any innocent children is when you become irreversibly the problem.

    • dgxyz  13 hours ago

      No I didn't.

      Your second point literally makes no sense and is based on the straw man that babies are holding guns where I made no point even related to that or collateral kills (which are unacceptable). Secondarily my point is based on internationally legal definitions of combatant and evidenced with a video of combatants being trained. Not like the UN and UNICEF haven't been all over this for decades.

      Don't use child soldiers and you won't get statistically significant child casualties.

  • Saline9515  12 hours ago

    > I just pointed out that the "freedom fighters" in everyone's minds are raping murdering bastards

    So, like Israeli soldiers?[0]

    > if a child has a gun pointing at your head and has been trained to fire it at you, which is exactly what they have been doing

    Israelis do exactly the same[1]

    As long as Israelis rely on violence, war crimes and human rights violations, there can be no deescalation. We see it in the current ceasefire, where Israelis refused to stop their annexation war (and flattening) of Liban.

    [0]https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2024/8/13/israeli-p...

    [1]https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170708-israel-gives-sett...