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Comment by palata

12 hours ago

To me, it makes jujutsu look like the Nix of VCSes.

Not meaning to offend anyone: Nix is cool, but adds complexity. And as a disclaimer: I used jujutsu for a few months and went back to git. Mostly because git is wired in my fingers, and git is everywhere. Those examples of what jujutsu can do and not git sound nice, but in those few months I never remotely had a need for them, so it felt overkill for me.

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Jenk  11 hours ago

Tbf you wouldn't use/switch to jj for (because of) those kind of commands, and are quite the outlier in the grand list of reasons to use jj. However the option to use the revset language in that manner is a high-ranking reason to use jj in my opinion.

The most frequent "complex" command I use is to find commits in my name that are unsigned, and then sign them (this is owing to my workflow with agents that commit on my behalf but I'm not going to give agents my private key!)

    jj log -r 'mine() & ~signed()'

    # or if yolo mode...

    jj sign -r 'mine() & ~signed()'

I hadn't even spared a moment to consider the git equivalent but I would humbly expect it to be quite obtuse.

rjh29  3 hours ago

It's the dvorak of git... Maybe more efficient but incompatible with everyone else and a very loud vocal minority.

You can find this pattern again and again. How many redditors say 120fps is essential for gaming or absolutely require a mechanical keyboard?

  • SatvikBeri  3 hours ago

    It's totally compatible though, and that's a big selling point. I use jj and nobody else at my work uses it and that has never been an issue.

    • palata  3 hours ago

      I think the "incompatible" was more in the dvorak sense, which I believe is that whenever you are on another computer, it most likely won't have dvorak.

      For jujutsu, it's fine on your own computer, but you probably have to use git in the CI or on remote servers. And you probably started with git, so moving to jujutsu was an added effort (similar to dvorak).

  • palata  3 hours ago

    Yeah I think that dvorak is a good example, too.

    I don't get the mechanical keyboard one, though. I am fine with any keyboard, I just like my mechanical keyboard at home. Just like I am fine with any chair, but ideally I would have a chair I like at home.

    120fps I have no experience with, but I would imagine it's closer to video quality. Once you're used to watching everything in 4K, probably it feels frustrating to watch a 1080p video. But when 4K did not exist, it was not a need. I actively try to not get used to 4K because I don't want to "create the need" for it :-).

  • RankingMember  3 hours ago

    I don't even like using "natural" keyboards despite the ergonomic advantage because it ruins my muscle memory when I'm on the (much more prevalent) "regular" keyboard.

  • deno  3 hours ago

    I mean let's not be hasty. Mechanical keyboards used to be just normal keyboards when computers were still computers.

mamcx  5 hours ago

No, jj is super simple in daily use, in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias). This include stuff that in git is a total mess of complexity like dealing with rebases. So not judge the tool for this odd case.

  • palata  3 hours ago

    > in contrast with git that is a constant chore (and any sane person use alias)

    I don't use aliases, I guess I'm insane?

    Also 99.9% of the time, git "just works" for me. If I need to do something special once a year, I can search for it. Like I would with jujutsu.