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Comment by FloorEgg

6 hours ago

Yes, and to me the evolution of life sure looks like an evolution of more truthful models of the universe in service of energy profit. Better model -> better predictions -> better profit.

I'm extremely skeptical that all of life evolved intelligence to be closer to truth only for us to digitize intelligence and then have the opposite happen. Makes no sense.

My understanding is that this is the opposite of what is typically understood to be true - organisms with less truthful (more reductive/compressed) perception survive better than those with more complete perception. "Fitness beats truth."

  • I think we are maybe talking past each other?

    Fitness is effective truth prediction, appropriately scoped.

    A frog doesn't need to understand quantum physics to catch a fly. But if the frogs model of fly movement was trained on lies it will have a model that predicts poorly, won't catch flies, and will die.

    There is another level to this in that the more complex and changing the environment the more beneficial a wider scoped model / understanding of truth.

    However if you are going to lean fully into Hoffman and accept thatby default consciousness constructs rather than approximate reality I think we will have to agree to disagree. Personally I ascribe to Karl Friston free energy principle.