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Comment by codeflo

7 hours ago

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

That too would very likely be seen as deeply political.

  • After reading about Wayland for 10 (?) years and thinking it was some huge deal, I finally took the leap as I was redoing my window manager anyway and it was quite easy (at least on NixOS). Heck virt-viewer (one of my main apps) is still running under Xwayland because the performance seems better.

    • 10 years ago Wayland was in much worse state. It started being good in the last few years, though some features are still lacking.

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    • The only reason why I'm not running Wayland on my Framework laptop is that there's some really weird bug where it hardlocks the system, and after I force-reboot it, the audio chip doesn't come back up unless I drain or unplug the battery. X11 doesn't have this issue.

      Of course, this was also several years ago, and it's possible the bug has been fixed. Maybe I should try Wayland again.

Whenever I see X used, I wonder if the author will return to replace the variable with the actual name.

I was thinking of X11 as well, but did not feel old - until I read your text. ;)

Probably more reasonable.

I'm not sure why xorg exists if their sole purpose is to kill x. As per the many posts by their developers.

  • It would be ironic if Xorg launched a twitter competitor using a custom update protocol (an X extension) over the network and TCL

    • knowing how xorg currently operates (it doesn't, it has a successor) it'd be a wayland protocol negotiated over dbus and mainly opposed by the GNOME people

My first thought was "so they go commandline now?". Because X for me is still "the graphical interface".

I get really really tired at the back and forth with Wayland and all that, but I would put up with reading rants about windowing systems everyday if it meant I never had to think about this X again.