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Comment by angoragoats

3 hours ago

> For something to be an ad hominem you simply need to address the speaker rather than what was said

No, this is a common misconception. Addressing the speaker is part of it but is not sufficient by itself.

People who are quick to claim “ad hominem!” have been getting this wrong basically forever, so please feel free to educate yourself by reading this excellent post: https://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html

“It is not a logical fallacy to attack someone; the fallacy comes from assuming that a personal attack is also necessarily an attack on that person's arguments.

Therefore, if you can't demonstrate that your opponent is trying to counter your argument by attacking you, you can't demonstrate that he is resorting to ad hominem.”