Comment by llarsson
1 day ago
Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open, rather than just giving it all to Microsoft instead?
1 day ago
Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open, rather than just giving it all to Microsoft instead?
Most of the cost (to the government) for Windows is "support" (in a very general sense) and that cost isn't disappearing with Linux.
Especially since it is easier to find badly underpaid (and not particularly competent) Windows sysadmins than it is to find badly underpaid Linux admins.
Ok but the license fees are, what, 50 quid? times say, 3k or 30k people? A 150k or 1.5m injection into the linux ecosystem to develop those would pay for a _lot_ of developers and a _lot_ of developer time.
From what I heard about NGI-zero, another government sponsorship project (1), the problem so far is primarily finding the projects that need sponsorship.
(1) https://nlnet.nl/NGI0/
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doesn’t really feel like that much tbh
I don't think that cost is what is mostly driving the move from Windows nowadays.
Are you implying that need for support would go away?
If anything the demand would be artificially high at the start of a mass migration, and then presumably level out to something similar to what we see today with Windows.
This is basically RHEL's entire business model.
Not a thing any longer, for the most part. People know how to open a browser on any operating system these days. Go to the menu, run it. Get bored and click the X on the top bar. Source: nearby kids. A few times I've said... "this is Cinnamon, or KDE, or... Windows."
"Ok, whatever," (old man) is the response I get.
And, you don't have to move 100% of their workflow in a single day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47730137
> Imagine what can happen if the French and other governments would start pouring all the money into developing that further in the open
You'd get a clusterfuck of a consensus spec, then they'd all get pissed off and develop their own incompatible versions anyway?
Have you seen international projects without strong, centralized leadership?
I have worked on things like PSD2, a well oiled government-led machine that just works. There are some dysfunctional things, then there are things working perfectly fine.
You need to update your notes its not 90s.
Credit where credit is due, I think the strong centralization of the EU administration has made for better pan-European requirements and software.
Sometimes the perfectness of the product is less important than the fact that there was one opinionated decider.
They'll start pulling Linux in a direction that suites them, which will potentially be at odds with the preferences of open source software enthusiasts.
They might have an effect in the development of an office suite, possibly of a desktop environment or one specialized Linux distribution. Nobody will be forced to use those specific ones if they don't like them. There are plenty of options in the Linux world.
Why haven’t they done it yet? I just think they’re incentivized enough for it.
Because until literally a year ago, the country that hosted Microsoft was one of France's most trusted allies.
It takes time to find a suitable replacement to a global monopoly.
It looks like the president - which was a businessman - will make a huge damage to American IT businesses. And IT stocks dominate the S&P 500, comprising roughly 1/3 of the index's total market capitalization... Good luck America!
One eu country or another has been talking about this for at least a decade. Nothing will happen this time either, or we'll get another of those things like the weird owncloud knock off that is totally developed by the EU
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Not really. I mean Trump has amped the rhetoric, but there have been no new laws passed.
The privacy threats were always there.
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Gotta love anti America Reddit tier fear mongering
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> yet
Best time to start doing it was yesterday. Second best time to start doing it now. They are at "now" step.
If governments, especially France, get involved in software development the likely outcome is that people will soon regret the days of Microsoft...
The so called free market really did a bang up job didn't it? The proprietary buggy mess of Windows and the walled garden of MacOS which given its *nix underpinnings could have been really fantastically awesome but instead is a proprietary buggy mess.