Comment by cedws
5 days ago
I haven't looked into the details but I remember from the announcement that the EU cloud is owned specifically by an EU entity headed by EU citizens. There would be no point spinning up a 'sovereign cloud' beholden to the US.
... And this entity is again owned by AWS. And so the cloud act still applies.
> There would be no point spinning up a 'sovereign cloud' beholden to the US.
Of course: It gives (both sides) a narrative that let's them pretend everything is alright.
How would the cloud act apply if none of the employees of the AWS European Sovereign Cloud are US citizens?
> Courts can require parent companies to provide data held by their subsidiaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
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Edit: Looks like the below is not true. However, such setup is technically possible and if they were serious about making it truly isolated from US influence, it can be done.
Original comment: No it's not owned by AWS. It's a separate legal entity with EU based board and they license the technology from the US company.
This source says it's 100% owned by AWS USA:
https://openregister.de/company/DE-HRB-G1312-40853
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How difficult would it be for the "independent" licensor to exfiltrate data from the "sovereign cloud" via logging or replication?
The control-planes have to be completely independent for anything approaching real independence, not just some legal fiction that's lightly different[1] from the traditional big-tech practice of having an Irish subsidiary licensing the parent company's tech for tax optimization purposes.
1. No different at all, according to sibling comment.
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