Comment by echelon
7 hours ago
There hasn't been so much as a finger lifted against antitrust behavior since 2000. They feel as though they're invincible at this point.
7 hours ago
There hasn't been so much as a finger lifted against antitrust behavior since 2000. They feel as though they're invincible at this point.
This is false and it weakens your position.
https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-g...
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-l...
https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-a...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_cases_against_Google...
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/19/eu-orders-apple-to-open-up-a...
…and there are many more.
You can say those aren’t enough, but it is 100% fallacious to say there has been zero antitrust actions against Apple and Google since 2000.
can you explain how someone being incorrect about something weakens their position? i assume the position in question is that their should be more trust busting. "there have been these antitrust actions" isn't actually a counter argument to "there should be more antitrust actions", so it doesn't weaken the position, unless i'm not understanding what you mean by that.
you know what my favorite fallacy is? the fallacy fallacy, the mistaken assumption that by showing an argument is invalid you've shown its conclusion is false.
Because the argument wasn't "there should be more" but was in fact "there have been none"?
It's pretty easy to weaken such a strong position if you can provide not just one but multiple pieces of evidence to the contrary.
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If someone says 'the level of X is 0, and the appropriate level should be higher than it currently is', and if it turns out that the current level of X is higher than the claimed 0, that does indeed raise doubts about their position.
Apple got a lot of flak for their shenanigans, but here's hoping the EU puts the hammer down on both of them.