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Comment by Maxion

11 hours ago

iMessage is AFAIK only really a big thing in the US.

Canada too.

I only have WhatsApp installed for when I leave the country.

  • It depends on your social circle obviously. I had a single person I used iMessage with no but we since switched to SMS. Not many people where I live have iphones.

Yes, and the US is by far Apple's most important handset market. The other iOS-majority countries are small markets for Apple.

I totally buy this as someone located in the US, but what is everybody else using? It can’t be WhatsApp? Is everyone sending all their connection graphdata to Meta?

  • A lot of SMBs use Instagram to connect to their clients, so Instagram build-in messenger is a default option for a lot of people (especially women) in many parts of the world.

    Some places have regional messengers that are very entrenched, like Line in Japan or KakaoTalk in Korea.

    WhatsApp is a default option in a large number of countries including most of Middle East, parts of Europe, Brazil, most of Africa, Southern Asia. To me it is surprising, too, because out of all messaging options WhatsApp seems like the least developed and least ergonomic.

    And yes, this does mean that most people share whatever data Big Tech wants. They use Meta to talk to each other, auto-upload their photos to Google, click "accept" to every cookie banner so that thousands of no-name companies around the world know where they are and what they are doing at all times.

  • It’s WhatsApp. No one thinks about sending data to Meta. The world is much bigger than the HN bubble, where almost no one thinks about privacy implications.

    • Absolutely this. No one cares about privacy. 99,9% population has no clue how tech works. “Oh, it’s an app on my phone.” That’s what typical consumer understands. How text travels from one phone to other is something magical.

      Got WhatsApp, because there is no other channel to communicate with customers. It’s literally used by everyone without exceptions. Really scary.

  • in my country it's Whatsapp, and has been since before it was acquired by Meta

  • Everyone in the UK and Western Europe uses WhatsApp as their primary messenger.

    The only time I ever open iMessage is when I get an SMS 2FA verification code or something similar.

    Also, in the Middle East everyone also just uses WhatsApp or Telegram.