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Comment by salad-tycoon

9 hours ago

I feel the same way for a while now but especially recently. It’s been obvious for a while I suppose but greatly clarified recently.

I have just one question for you pllbnk, are we the baddies?

As an European I think Americans and Europeans at large are still on the same page and will be because of the shared cultural ties. Recent economic upheaval (2020-ongoing) just shook the foundations and eroded the trust in the large voter base. Now we are all looking at China and feel a bit envious how stable things look there from afar; they had the Evergrande bankruptcy, media was predicting collapse but they are chugging along; now the big stories are demographics (same as in the West, by the way, so it cancels out) and Taiwan (to me it more and more looks more like Western fearmongering rather than actual danger). Meanwhile they are delivering just what the main voter base in the West needs - affordable goods.

So yeah, at this moment in time it's really really hard to say who are better or worse as the collective West's reputation is tumbling down and China's if not rising, then at least staying put.