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Comment by tempest_

16 hours ago

Citation needed.

All of those can be achieved with replaceable batteries.

Citation needed. It seems pretty clear that a mechanism to allow a user to access a battery will increase complexity, making all the other properties harder to achieve.

  • You're asking for proof that effective waterproof phones with removable batteries exist?

    https://m.gsmarena.com/results.php3?chkRemovableBattery=sele...

    • You're proving the point.

      1) iPhones for example are ip68 rated while those are just ipx8/9

      2) Do you want to be limited to the universe of those search results? Do you want to buy a Sony Xperia?

      You can't make batteries directly replaceable at the same quality and price. There are tradeoffs. Obviously waterproof non-embedded batteries exist. Just like you could make a removable battery the same slimness as embedded. With massive tradeoffs. It's capacity will be terrible. No one is surprised a removable battery can be waterproof but the point is there are tradeoffs.

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    • No, the list was "Cheaper, higher battery capacity, water proof, smaller, stronger". I don't think it's all that controversial to say that there are engineering tradeoffs to be made here. You can make a waterproof phone with a removable battery, but you can't make a waterproof phone with a removable battery that is as good or better than an iPhone in every other respect too. If you could, iPhones would already have removable batteries.

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    • Oh yes, the famous Galaxy XCover 7 Pro. People are camping out in the rain waiting for their release because replaceable batteries are under such high demand.

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  • It'll increase the size of the case by a small amount but a battery cell is a battery cell... Rip open an old device and you'll see.