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Comment by ceejayoz

10 hours ago

> Russian nuclear doctrine would have treated that as an existential threat.

They claimed that with basically every little sprinkle of new aid for like two years, until everyone realized it was a bluff.

Putin is many things, but actively suicidal looks like a no.

Just because he hasn’t pulled the trigger doesn’t mean there isn’t an actual red line.

Russian stated nuclear doctrine has been treated by the Russians as an existential threat to Russia if followed through on.

  • Then it's fine, as conventional bombing of Moscow is not an existential threat.

I suspect Israel and Russia are looking at each other with "You first!" so that they can start nuking and blame the other for starting it.