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Comment by johnsmith1840

8 hours ago

US lost more planes to friendly fire and accidents than the enemy.

We've killed more senior leadership than total US deaths in the war.

Iran has not killed a single pilot or sailor.

That's a generational ass whooping.

The triumphant US have succeeded in reversing the pre-War Iranian offer to give up HEU and the pre-War state of the Strait being open to traffic.

They have also very possibly succeeded in upending the strength of petro dollar that has been bouying up US economic dominance for much of the past 50 years.

USA! FTW!

Talk about muddled goals.

Somehow Iran is still in control of the strait. This sounds a lot like Russia declaring victory after three days in Ukraine.

> US lost more planes to friendly fire and accidents than the enemy

Truly a force to be reckoned with.

Funnily that's all utterly irrelevant.

Like Vietnam showed, it doesn't matter how much better numbers than the enemy you have, because kill counts don't win wars.

Iran is still the one closer to achieving its objectives (survival for the regime), because they don't need to do much for that to happen. Apply pressure to the Gulf states and global energy and fertiliser markets and at some point, the US will cave. The American public will not tolerate high gas and everything related prices for long, and especially with an election coming up, there will be significant pressure.

US/Israel's war goals are basically unachievable. They can't enforce regime change on a regime backed by millions of fanatical loyal men, with defence and terrain on their side. They can certainly try a land invasion, but that would take years and cost a lot in casualties.