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Comment by Nevermark

9 hours ago

Counterfactuals are weak opinion, at best.

Given that Apple is doing well, the onus is on someone claiming that Apple would have done better, having a strong argument.

Not "could" have done better, because things could obviously have gone better, worse, or anything else, given any substantive or random difference. Could means nothing.

(And I say this as someone very disappointed with how Cook handled that.)

I’d rather hear from someone suggesting, counterfactually, that they would have done worse had they not capitulated. What’s that argument like?

> Counterfactuals are weak opinion, at best.

Ah, "If you can't definitively and completely prove a negative then you're wrong (but also I'm like, totally not carrying water for those people)" is definitely not a weak opinion, though.

That said, maybe you should read the discussion a bit more carefully before jumping in with "OMG PROOOOOOF" or whatever the fuck this was supposed to be? The entire, plain English discussion, revolved around one thing not being the only possible "fact" just because it happened. None of the posts were particularly long, and none used challenging words.