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Comment by cassianoleal

19 hours ago

The whole page advertises how well this runs Linux, but then…

> The side-firing speakers are tuned with Dolby Atmos® to deliver clear, balanced audio on Windows

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Kirby64  19 hours ago

Don't forget literally all the battery values are specified as Windows 11.

  • yjftsjthsd-h  19 hours ago

    Not literally all; they say

    > 7 days

    > Standby without charging

    > Wi-Fi connected on Ubuntu

    (I'm unimpressed with listing all the "active" battery life listings with Windows, mind; I just want us to be precise in our criticisms.)

rozab  16 hours ago

In my experience, Linux support on Framework is worse than on a typical ThinkPad, and they don't have much interest in contributing to the ecosystem like System76 does. They still make good products, I'm just very unimpressed with the Linux marketing.

  • dangus  8 hours ago

    For me it’s very much “it just works” with pretty much every distro I try. I had to configure zero hardware. How much better am I supposed to expect it to be?

    They financially sponsor Linux/OSS projects and give them laptops to test on. What more do you want them to do?

    They don’t have a zillion employees like Lenovo who is the #1 volume computer company in the world.

    Finally, IMO, System76 is a much worse example because they aren’t focusing on the things Linux needs to grow. Linux doesn’t need contributions like their their silly Ubuntu reskin distro to be popular on the desktop. Instead, Linux needs a company making compatible hardware that is good, attractive hardware that will stop people from buying a MacBook instead.

    The System76 lineup is a complete mess of white label Clevo systems. They have no business offering 8 different laptop models. That just tells potential customers “wow, buying a Linux laptop is a lot more complicated than buying a Mac!”

tredre3  16 hours ago

I agree with you, it would have been nice if their speakers had dedicated hardware to drive them instead of the magical dolby software.

All laptop speakers sound like shit on Linux. I'm sure people will reply with their anecdotal evidence, or pretend that it's not that bad once you have a good EQ. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I've spent hours trying to get multiple laptop speakers at least half as good as they sound on Windows. No success. And I'm talking thinkpads, dell xps, the usual linux go-tos, not some exotic stuff.

  • muyuu  15 hours ago

    Maybe you have very niche needs, but for most of us speakers on laptops are never great and they're not really there for that. Reminds me of people shopping for high performance scooters. I mean, you're riding a scooter... it's not meant for that.

aljgz  16 hours ago

If you are an avid Linux user, you should know that this kind of Criticism is not on point.

Battery life? Should they share all possible config combinations? Should they share the most power-saving setting (and then be blamed for sharing numbers that almost no one gets to reproduce?)

As a Linux user on an AMD FW my battery life is good enough (7ish hours of work), and I never felt I need to tune it further from the OOB Fedora Kinoite.

moffkalast  19 hours ago

Well you know how it is on linux, one wrong move and pulseaudio needs restarting lol.