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Comment by FpUser

17 hours ago

I am subscribed to their all you can eat plan and use their Junie coding agent which is included with subscription with some free tokens. I then pay for extra tokens on on-need basis and all works like a charm. So far I pay (well my clients do as I bill separately for that) about $100 a month to cover my current coding needs. All works as a charm. I mostly use their CLion, Webstorm and PyCharm IDE's for development, sometimes other as well. All in all dev experience is excellent and far exceeds that of Cursor I was trying to use for a while.

Not sure what problems people here have with JetBrains offerings

Once you work somewhere that gives you unlimited opus 4.6 and learn how to use it properly, your perspective of what you should be doing day to day shifts.

Honestly unlimited codex with 5.4 high has a similar effect.

SOTA models + harnesses used together is very different than it was 6 months ago. People that have significant software engineering experience can get so much done it's scary.

  • I keep hearing this, but I have yet to see “so much getting done” anywhere. I’d sure like to but things seem to be pretty much be business as normal.

    • This was absolutely the case - not actually that much more productive - until only a few months ago.

      We hit some sort of tipping point between models and harnesses and people learning how to use the tools idk.

      And directs / engineers / friends seem happier.

      Simon Wilson recently did a podcast where he discussed his experience and it felt very familiar.

      Worth listening (ignore the click bait title) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc8FBhQtdsA

  • I have what you call "significant engineering experience", decades of it to be precise and have designed and developed many complex products successfully used in various industries.

    I do not need to "shift my perspective" since I do use agents to the degree that I need and it helps help me very much. I am way more productive with them.

    Generated code is still not perfect disregarding of any particular model (I have access to all). I have to watch and fix, sometimes by supplying more precise specs, sometimes asking to rewrite piece of code in such and such manner using this and that structures.

    • Wasn't meant to be personal- I was using the proverbial "you".

      I keep seeing what I'm referring to happen - folks are using / opening their editor less and less.

      What's crazy is a developer can go on a walk and use tmux/tailscale and keep working as if they were sitting at their desk.