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Comment by Havoc

17 hours ago

You've literally got tools like opencode that are MIT licensed. Most of those points X could do on their own or are things that make this attractive for cursor not X.

e.g. Need developer data? Use some of that spare GPU compute, hand out free top end model coding access for a bit and you'll very rapidly have developer data

>decent enterprise relationships

I guess. 60B worth of "relationships" though?

> hand out free top end model coding access for a bit and you'll very rapidly have developer data

They tried this - grok was free on openrouter for a while

  • Marketing push was there too, everyone was saying Grok had jumped Claude and Codex, yet I never got that when using all 3.

    • Turns out that benchmaxxing doesn't help if it's not very good when people actually try it.

  • It's more useful to have access your full code base compared to having access to only your input and the output they generate.

  • But imagine if they handed out free access to Kimi or GLM-5. Actually, I still wouldn't use it, because I avoid APIs that say they hold on to data.

But if the developers are to presumably use the model you give out, what data are you going to get from them thats useful?

  • I don't know - was GP speculating that there is value there on a scale to justify 60B no me