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Comment by jamiequint

12 hours ago

Your claim was that the product doesn't work, and I'm telling you it works without intervention consistently and in complicated traffic situations.

Any argument about how people don't pay enough attention since it isn't yet certified as a L4 system is irrelevant and tangential to the point.

Your definition of Tesla's self-driving product is very different than what Tesla itself promised, and that's what the person you are replying to...is telling you as well.

  • Anyone who thinks it is pipe dream given how it works today + rate of change is clueless, and that is putting it kindly.

    • I don't think L4 autonomy is a pipe dream. Indeed, it exists today and is widely available in the same city you drove your Tesla in. I think it's a pipe dream for Tesla specifically to achieve it, because for bizarre and idiosyncratic reasons Elon Musk won't let them use LiDAR or mount a roof sensor. They've been stuck at L2 for a decade now, and I don't see much reason to think that making that system incrementally more reliable will ever "unlock" L4.

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