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Comment by pjerem

13 hours ago

Idk in the US but in France you are allowed to have personal data on your work computer.

Though you have to label it as personal (like creating a « Personal » folder or label and your employer can still access it in case of suspicion but he must do it in your physical presence and accompanied with a witness, generally a representative of the employees.

So you theoretically don’t have full privacy on this computer but you can’t be sanctioned for this usage.

I don't think we have sweeping regulations about it, at least in California.

Most companies I've worked at have a policy of some "reasonable personal use" being permitted. The concern is usually focused on the other way around: Companies do not want their IP on your personal machines.

They can certainly look at whatever is on their own machines, however, regardless if it is your personal data or not.

One large caveat: If you do any work on your company's equipment, they may possibly own it, no matter how relevant it is to the company. It's one of the legal tests used to judge the ownership of your work.

  • Can depend on the field too. I work in drug discovery and if the FDA was to request data that requires my computer they would have access to everything I had on it...Including my texts if I happened to log in to my personal apple account since it's a Mac.

  • It is even worse in France: if you code open source "on the side" of you work, at home, the company which employs you may claim the copyrights of it. I had to add explicit exclusion of this claim of copyrights in my job contracts to protect my personal work.

    That was a few years back, dunno if that was fixed.

    • AFAIK it's the same in the USA, that's why one of the first questions when interviewing with a company is to ask them about their moonlighting policy if you do want to work on a side project.

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    • This is common in North America too. In Canada, people really should be going through their personal projects and getting a moonlighting clause added before they sign any employment agreements. Employment has gotten tough so a lot of juniors aren’t doing this with their first jobs and we’ll start to see the ramifications of that in about five or ten years.

Same in Germany, although the employer can forbid this but needs to do this explicitly. Most employers don't forbid personal data on work machines or using your work email for personal things.

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  • Not having AI companies is reasonable trade off for not having all of my data including full DNA sequence being recorded 24/7 with absolutely zero care of privacy or protection and shared with everyone who has some marginal amount of money to buy it.

  • I couldn't care less. Statistically I will live longer and be happier than "Live to work" anglo protestant" so I really don' mind about GenAI stuff.

  • Thats... a poorly crafted mumble jumble without any underlying sense, even ignoring insults. Can't handle existence of society where quality of life is higher priority (and you see it on the ground very well) than some sum on account or meaningless titles and rat race achievements or office zero sum games?

  • Is this supposed to be funny

    • It's obviously an unwitting parody account. Calling yourself "Der Einzige" while reciting an incoherent script of internet clichés is indistinguishable from satire -- hilariously unintentional parody.

  • You know, I almost hope you trained an AI to spout off this nonsense because if there’s human cognition involved in this, I’m embarrassed.