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Comment by ceejayoz

9 hours ago

I have a loved one who used the 988 hotline several times.

None of them resulted in police intervention. Our county has a mobile crisis team of social workers who show up and get you connected to services.

... services that use force against individuals. Never ever, ever tell a social worker of any kind that you think of suicide, or that anyone else does. ESPECIALLY not if you're young. Help, or social worker's kind of help, does not help. And getting rid of social workers ... I almost killed one before that happened.

All the lip service they make to that force is not the answer. It's lies, cheats and deception on their part, nothing more. Once on a forced youth services vacation I locked, with an entire group, a social services worker into a room. She became instantly educated why locking the rooms was a bad idea, why not even having a lock on the inside was an incredible mistake, and why youth workers ignoring screaming in the facility was an incredibly bad idea. All these people want is to be the big man (yes, including the 19 year old women who join), and you cannot explain it to them. After she eventually got out, we never saw her again, and the others were a LOT more flexible.

And that wasn't even close to the worst that happened.

These things is what social services calls "protection". They purposefully create situations where Gandhi would eventually beat up his own mother, and call it protection. Don't do this to people.

  • Consider the possibility that both your experience and those you worked with are not universal. The experience our family had was night and day different from yours.

    I suspect this varies enormously from country to country, state to state, county to county, and per provider.

    edit: OP changed their post substantially, and I'm now not quite sure what it's asserting at all.

    • I don't claim they are. And even if my experience is a 1% case, you still need to make people aware they're a possibility.

      And it's far more than 1%.

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