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Comment by noosphr

17 hours ago

The majority are released by socialists, and by socialist I mean the People's Republic of China. Which everyone seems to forget is a socialist country working towards world communism.

They are a prestige propaganda tool on par with the space race. On top of that they insert a subtle pro-socialist bias in everything they touch.

Ask deepseek about the US economic system for a blatant example.

Now think what something as innocent seeming as the qwen retrieval models are doing in the background of every request.

You're talking to a Canadian, and I'm not scared of the "red menace". You should be more scared - those guys can build bullet trains while you Yanks are finding it hard to even keep the old ones you have running. The solution here isn't going to be some kind of ideological force that protects people from different ideas, and that's an unAmerican way to fix things anyway. Embrace other ideas; central planning doesn't have to be evil, you just have to find a way to stop putting evil people in charge.

  • > those guys can build bullet trains while you Yanks are finding it hard to even keep the old ones you have running

    This is an argument in the lane of "at least he built the Autobahn".

    Speaking as a German.

  • The US can’t build bullet trains because property rights and local regulations make it prohibitively expensive. Not due to capability.

    • I don't know where people get this idea.

      America has several sets of eminent domain laws depending on the jurisdiction. The most coercive is federal eminent domain law specifically as it relates to building infrastructure like railways and highways.

      It's set up so that you can take the land first and eventually go back around and decide on what the right price should have been.

      Not only does it superscede state and local law, federal infrastructure projects are also not bound by state laws like CEQA.

      You can even apply federal eminent domain law by e.g. transferring a state-level project to the Army Corps of Engineers.

      What America is lacking in these projects is will, not means. The federal government could take your house and run a train through it by the end of the week if they wanted, doesn't matter where you live.

      [edit] In fact some states even ceded their eminent domain rights to private railways.

      https://ij.org/press-release/appeals-court-sides-with-railro...

    • > property rights

      The Australian federal government is planning to build a high-speed rail line from Sydney to Newcastle (medium-sized city two hours drive north). Their solution to property rights, is >50% of the line will be underground. It will cost >US$50 billion, but if the Australian federal government wants to spend that, it can afford it. The US federal government could too, but it isn’t a priority for them

      > local regulations make it prohibitively expensive

      Local regulations can be pre-empted by state or federal legislation. The real problem is lack of political will to do it.

    • Surely there are existing rails right now that could be transformed into a bullet train line.

      Like properties and regulations are a true problem, but it's not like trains don't exist at all in America.

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    • the US can't build bullet trains because they'd serve the average person and there's no money in serving the average person

    • Property rights, regulations and price are precisely the part of the American system that takes away that capability.

  • >you just have to find a way to stop putting evil people in charge.

    Of course, why did no one think of that?

  • Xi is an obviously more capable and effective leader than Trump, but the US actually does have ways to boot people out of office when they do a bad job, and clear methods to choose successors, and China has neither. That matters more than who happens to be in charge right now.

  • The so-called inability to build trains is precisely because of a socialist/leftist style view that prevents this. I think you may not be aware that China has what's called a command economy. There is no one that is going to tell the Party that they cannot build a train in some area is because of ancient bush species or some kind of heirloom fruit and certainly not some awkward looking endangered species of fish.

  • Literal Trump Derangement Syndrome. America has a comically horrendous president but remains fundamentally a liberal democracy… and Canada concludes “literal Nazis are a better choice”. It’s uncanny how much can be taken for granted :(

    (American talking, who’s had multiple Canadian friends make this mind boggling overcorrection)

    • Weimar Germany also was fundamentally a liberal democracy. Hitler seized power legally.

      Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.

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> Which everyone seems to forget is a socialist country working towards world communism.

It's easy to forget because they actually built an incredibly vibrant capitalist economy.

Is China even really communist? If anything they seem to be fairly on the Capitalist side but just a bit opposite on the spectrum of the US. And much more authoritarian

  • The usual thing to say is state capitalist but honestly they do keep a market around too. A little hybrid of everything, I guess? Just with the state ready to jump in and intervene if anything happens they don't like.

    • Can we just call it what it is?

      Fascism (in the Mussolini model) in everything but name.

      - Hyper-Nationalism & Rejuvenation - State-Controlled Capitalism (Corporatism) - Authoritarian & Cult of Personality - Militarism & Irredentism

      And they have technology to maintain control rather than needing the Black-shirts.

      There are differences obviously to fit Chinese culture, but there are many parallels.