← Back to context

Comment by SecretDreams

4 hours ago

> What I'm wondering is why is there such a push for this stuff? Why does someone want everyone to think life as we know it is ending?

Simple thought exercise (it's a 2x2):

What are the consequences of climate change being consequential vs inconsequential?

What are the consequences of us doing too little or too much to mitigate climate change?

Which quadrants are most consequential for the future of our planet?

tl;dr is there's very poor ROI to do nothing to improve our polluting habits and banking on the world sorting itself out.

Furthermore, most actions we can take to improve climate outcomes can also improve societal and technological outcomes. The only downside to taking more actions to have clean energy and less pollution are based on made up economic rules that normal people are supposed to follow, but that the super rich/powerful skirt at their leisure. A cleaner future benefits the VAST majority, irrespective of climate change. And the bonus is that if climate change does progress, we're better suited to manage it.

Or we can keep burning liquified dinosaur bones and partying like cigarettes don't cause cancer. I get the appeal of the 60s for how care free people could be - they lived without consequence. And we're stuck dealing with their failed policies.

  • While I have no problem blaming the rich. You are post here you are most probably part of those people who are skirting it at their leisure. Even I with a life long devotion to climate and environmental issues have a hard time to be a positive effect. The only way to not skirt your responsibilities right now is to be a Greta Thunberg.

    > liquified dinosaur bones

    I know this is a nice factoid that does not need to be true. When I was 13 I did believed it, so now days I try to not spread this factoid. We can talk about the fascinating history of millions of years of efficient carbon storage on our planet.

    • > I know this is a nice factoid that does not need to be true. When I was 13 I did believed it, so now days I try to not spread this factoid.

      I took it as sarcasm.