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Comment by ramraj07

9 hours ago

It was not fraudulent, just incompetent. Not just here (though this is likely the most egregious example), there are many very bad biological models in circulation even today simply because some dudes who are thought leaders decided these things were this way when there was no causal evidence for it (it was almost always correlation). Thats right, our top scientists of the day still cant fundamentally fathom "correlation =/= causation"). Past examples include "a differentiated cell cant go back". Persistent examples include "longer telomeres cause you to live longer" and "there are x hallmarks of cancer."

And before someone says, "well theres nuance to it," "in hindsight its easy," "biology is complex," my answers are, no no and no. Debate me. Ill bring receipts.

The peer review process was repeatedly cheated by self-serving fraud. The medical field requires honest results and reporting. Why are you defending the fraud?

  • Science is no longer a hobby for the idle rich, it's an occupation. Peer review cannot function in a hostile environment governed by self interest (results == resume). Science practice needs to adapt to modern conditions rather than to pretend the idealized system that worked for an exclusive and elite group would work for a competetive worldwide industry.

    • This is exaggerating and generalizing too much. Science still works extremely well in general.

For replying to me, can you skip to the part where you explicitly call out what you believe the cause may be,

as general of a label as it may be?