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Comment by wolvoleo

8 hours ago

> In any case, it was always presented as a toolbox that countries should adapt into their apps – so judging the app by itself does not make much sense, it depends on how these techniques are implemented in each country’s verification app. There will be no single EU app, despite what the honchos of EU say.

Even more reason to make the "demo" app do things correctly because it's very unlikely that all member states actually implement things correctly.

> The internet is scary, parents think they can’t protect their children from many bad things happening, and someone came to provide a “solution."

A simple solution is just not providing your kids with a phone or computer.

Don't forget that many sources of porn will not obey this. Think the pirate bay will ask for age verification? If they obeyed the law they wouldn't even exist.

It's a solution for nothing, as the article points out too.

Whether there is a single app or not doesn't really matter - i'm more concerned about the database itself and the inter-connectivity between them and most importantly by which control acceptance protocol we abide between states.

The idea that we want a single database or a network without any kind of control is frightening me

  • What do you mean by "control" here? It's my understanding that EU law afford citizens the right to correct data that is wrong about them.

    • The problem is not about the data being correct or not, it's about its existence in the first place.

      Why would you correct data about you very own surveillance ?

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    • I mean that there is a big difference between a state automatically providing your data to any other state while having "their database disconnected" - and a human operator in the loop and an administrative verification of the appropriate access ;

      For example this would allow a state to refuse access to the PI of their citizens for cases that are not administratively documented. This forces the access audit sufficiently that a malign actor cannot simply request data for a citizen without having probable cause ; another vector we want to protect ourselves against is simply the psycho/sociopaths that have access to these data without surveillance.

> A simple solution is just not providing your kids with a phone or computer.

That’s not a solution. Nowadays many schools require access to a computer.

  • These schools, at least here where I am in Europe, have to provide their pupils with devices. How else would it be fair?