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Comment by dangus

3 days ago

It's not "human driver versus waymo driver," it's "car versus no car" or "10 cars versus 2 cars" or "fast cars versus slow cars."

No, it's the human driver vs the Waymo. I'm not going to entertain fantasies where all the cars magically disappear from the road; there's no political will for that and no politician is dumb enough to try.

To be perfectly clear, the difference between an empty road and a Waymo is mostly academic if you're on a bike. The Waymo is just that good at respecting space.

  • I’m not talking about cars magically disappear from the road, I’m specifically talking about taxis and rideshares versus using another way to get around, which even includes personal car ownership.

    Studies have shown repeatedly that rideshares lower transit usage and don’t reduce personal car ownership.

    • Improving transit and allowing Google to blow $100B on making cars drive themselves are not mutually exclusive.

      In the US, in particular, last mile transportation is mostly done by car. Transit cannot economically serve low-density suburbs.

      In a city? It depends on price versus convenience. As more and more cars drive themselves, the city can get away with taking back more and more space for transit and cyclists. People should choose mass transit because it's convenient, not because there's no way to call a car.

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