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Comment by revolvingthrow

1 day ago

I used (and will continue to use) most of those. Quick rules of thumb:

- markdown is .txt with just a tiny bit of syntactic sugar/syntax highlighting, and you can export it to pdf or html

- quarto is markdown-but-I-want-to-execute-code-blocks-inside

- typst is latex but modern, with 90% less cruft and 10% less functionality (academia, hating everything modern, will also hate you if you use typst)

- pandoc is how you export to pdf/html/whatever

By and large, it’s obvious which tool is needed when. There’s of course more, like asciidoc, but I struggle to think what isn’t being covered by the markdown/quarto/typst combo. Some wysiwyg editor maybe?

I don't care about missing features, but I just want a way to export to latex using typst.

It's okay if this is not the day to day tool used to render, but this should be possible. It's just a compiler between two languages, and latex happens to be Turing complete (and can display arbitrary things to a PDF), so it's 100% in the "not impossible" category

With such a tool nobody has to know if you use typst personally. Just like, say, nobody has to know you use jj rather than git

> (academia, hating everything modern, will also hate you if you use typst)

I chuckled. I'd love to try out typst when the time comes. But for writing a journal paper, it's still going to be latex.

  • I've been testing it out by using it to create the quizzes for a course I'm teaching this semester. My conclusion is that it's well worth finding a way to try it out. Drastically reduces the amount of boilerplate.

    (I haven't yet tried to write a full paper in it.)

I'm sorry, what exactly is the issue with typst?

  • No issues per se, but academic publishing has deep roots in the latex ecosystem. So templates from publishers are often not available in typst, or the publisher insists on a latex formatted file.

    Often supervisors/professors etc will also resist using typst because of the cognitive overhead on their already oversubscribed time. Typst has about 40 years of history to overcome and that will take a long time to do.

  • They made a new format with basically no accessibility. We finally got latex usable by blind people with acceptable html output, I’m not moving to something worse.