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Comment by TheFirstNubian

14 hours ago

I’m a little conflicted on this, as I see a slippery slope here. LLMs in their current state (e.g., Opus-4.7) are really good in planning and one-shot codegen, which I believe is their primary use case. So they do provide enough leverage in that regard.

With this new workflow, however, we should, uncompromisingly, steer the entire code review process. The danger here, the “slippery slope,” is that we’re constantly craving for more intelligent models so we can somehow outsource the review to them as well. We may be subconsciously engineering ourselves into obsolescence.

Subconsciously?!?

  • Lol! Wrong choice of word, maybe. I meant to say that we don’t seem to be putting much thought into how we’re outsourcing thinking to the LLMs.

    • The rate of improvement has given us no time to think at all. The past 3 years of progress should have been spread over the next 30 years to even give us a chance.

    • Some of us very much are, and we are ignored and/or attacked by people who don’t think about this quite often.

      This is such an interesting time to be in. Truly skilled developers like Rob Pike really don’t like AI, but many professional developers love it. I side with Mr. Pike on it all.

      I am not a skilled developer like he is, but I do like to think about what I’m doing and to plan for the future when writing code that might be part of that future. I like very simple code which is easy to read and to understand, and I try quite hard to use data types which can help me in multiple ways at once. The feeling when you solve a problem you’ve never solved before is indescribable, and bots strip all of that away from you and they write differently than I would.

      I don’t think any bot would ever come up with something like Plan9 without explicit instructions, and that single example showcases what bots can’t do: think about what is appropriate when doing something new.

      I don’t know what is right and what is wrong here, I just know that is an interesting time.

I feel the industry moving away from the automated slop machine, and back to conscious design. Is that only my filter bubble? Dex, dax, the CEO of sentry, Mario (pi.dev) - strong voices, all declaring the last half year a fever dream we must wake up from.

  • That seems to be the general direction, at least from my daily dose of cope on X (Twitter). Regardless, conscious design will never go out of style.