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Comment by Cider9986

20 hours ago

You should switch to GrapheneOS instead.

You mean buy a Google Pixel?

How many people can afford one?

  • In the USA, I think most people can easily afford a Pixel 9a at $56/year of device support starting from today.

    Calculator checks yearly cost based on device support: (https://ibb.co/xq82YQCw)

    Sources for device lifetime from calculator: (https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime)

    I used a New+Unlocked+Pixel+X on eBay to find a rough price of the phone.

    Most people get scammed by their carrier and pay $25-45 per month just for their wireless subscription, and many more get caught up in the device bundles which gets you the "latest and greatest", at a huge price. So people are paying, per month, what you can pay, per year for a Pixel.

    You can use Silent Link to pay by the gigabyte with no expiration date. Most people don't need unlimited—I use a maximum of 5 GB per month, and my average is around 3. At $1.60 per month, that is $60 per YEAR for me.

    Swap in https://jmp.chat for another 60 dollars per year for calls/texts and you get a $120/year phone bill which is just $10/month.

    I will be moving from US Mobile to Jmp.chat once my plan expires.

    You could also use US Mobile for $17/month which is unlimited and is user friendly. They also often have Pixels for a significant discount with no lock-in.

  • Motorola + Graphene coming 2027. I'm at least waiting to see what comes of that before making any decisions on my next phone.

    • I am hyped for that partnership—they should have a flip phone supported(don't quote me), among other cool devices.

      Not going to be cheaper than Pixels. The chips they need for the hardware security are the flagship Snapdragon chips iirc.

      I love my Pixel now, I would have to see where Motorola is better than the Pixels other than the more computing power.

  • I bought an 8a new when it launched for the express purpose of installing GOS. It cost like $450, and will last me most of a decade. If you are using a phone that costs significantly less than that (and I am speaking from personal experience! I had an Obamaphone that I got at a foodbank for many years, as well as a number of crappy used Androids!) your phone storage is so limiting that you are struggling to install more than a few apps.

    • > If you are using a phone that costs significantly less than that (and I am speaking from personal experience! I had an Obamaphone that I got at a foodbank for many years, as well as a number of crappy used Androids!) your phone storage is so limiting that you are struggling to install more than a few apps.

      The only phone I've ever had trouble installing more than a few apps was one with 512MB of storage. If I go check the second result on amazon for android phone it's a solid motorola option, unlocked for $127 and with 128GB. That's more than enough; even some flagships have 128GB.

      The "just over $100" range has multiple options with good storage. Below that is a sea of locked/refurbished phones that are also good options in many cases.

      Digging deeper I eventually hit a "BLU" brand phone for $50 with only 16GB, and that leaves you with not very much after the OS takes its space. But then you can add $10 to get another 16GB and have more than enough room for apps.

      So you have to go really low to have the problem you're describing.

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    • I've bought Motorola phones that cost less than half of that and still last for 3-5 years and I've been able to install far more than "a few" apps. Having an SD card slot is great for offloading the big storage uses like photos/video.

  • I get you. I used to buy Nexus devices as well as some of the first Pixels, until at some point the prices shot up to ridiculous levels for a phone and I went with other brands.

    Last year though the Pixel 8a was selling for 350€ and I got one. Luckily, given the recent developments. Will be installing GrapheneOS.

  • That's £105-£150 for first two pixels 6a on ebay.

    If you consider getting iPhone you DEFINITELY can afford something much newer than that.

  • Don't have pixels in my country. Apple only alternative. And a bunch of chinese brands which I wont touch in this scenario