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Comment by jrflowers

17 hours ago

> Waymo shows up with a convenient solution to both problems.

No it didn’t. Bus rides cost $2.80 in Portland.

And in August, the bus line that serves my neighborhood completely goes away, and the next closest bus line with stops 2 miles away will end weekday service after 6:30 p.m. and weekend service altogether.

I don't give a fuck if it's free, if it's inaccessible. I'm not crossing SE Foster on a rainy evening to catch a bus that won't take me home afterward.

  • The bus system would almost certainly be better if it did cost a somewhat-significant amount of money, because one of the biggest problems with public transit in the US is marginalized people getting on public transit and acting in ways that are unpleasant and disruptive to everyone else using it (think about a homeless drug addict passing out on the bus while splayed across several seats; or a schizophrenic screaming incoherently at everyone nearby and threatening to kill them). Having a meaningful fare and consistently enforcing payment of that fare keeps these people off of transit and makes the experience of being in an enclosed space with strangers better for everyone else.

    • Typically the poor are going to end up with subsidized fares even if you raise the standard fare. Your proposed solution seems unlikely to help.

    • Really horrifying lack of empathy in your thinking. Also, what a stupid, shortsighted plan.

  • I see. You meant that Waymo showed up with a solution for you, specifically, not the city or the neighborhood that you live in.