Comment by stingraycharles
10 hours ago
What is this reply even, what’s wrong with the vibe coding community? They have such ridiculous takes, it reminds me a lot of the extreme stances from the gaming community. Terminology also seems to come from there, “nerfing” etc.
>what’s wrong with the vibe coding community
For starters, the vibes.
Vibe coding, like Web3 before it (like Web 2.0 before it, like the dotcom boom before that - what preceded?) - harnesses the kind of focused attention with which gamers hook their brains into portals to virtual worlds - and directs all that bargain-basement wetware compute towards some obscured "real-world" goal instead. (See also: CADT development.)
Hyperscale these very inefficient but very dependable almost-not-efforts, and you beat the more efficient approaches. See also: evolutionary algorithms, autoresearch, price dumping; "attention is all you need", which though a legit piece of mathemagic always sounded to me like a rehash of that old adage, "all you need is love" (pejorative).
Really, "real world" is a consensus; we don't generally observe balamatoms or even balamolecules, we reason in terms of material objects' socially constructed balameanings and interrelations. Therefore, by redirecting sufficient attention to some thing labeled "unrealistic", we can remove that label; by this technique, a sufficiently large collective actor can quite literally, and quite directly, change the world. Without asking anyone, least of all me!
I think a lot of non-vibe-coding types also hold similar opinions -- in fact they might dislike Anthropic products even more, given that they (however few they might be) choose not to use them.
You honestly think “Anthropic employees are script kiddies with inflated egos that are high on their own supply” is a reasonable stance?
This seems such an immature take to me, and hard to take serious. Anthropic just a bunch of script kiddies? Really?
Claude Code is a vibe-coded product that doesn't seem to be undergoing regression tests.
It looks like they're running it in the loops then ship whatever looks the coolest.
How is this not "high on own supply"?
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They’ve said themselves that Claude code is 100% vibe coded now. That certainly meets the criteria of “script kiddies” and “high on their own supply”. The negative connotations are there on purpose because of the bugs and issues that these products have, something which presumably they wouldn’t have if there was human oversight and acknowledgement that the AI isn’t infallible.
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> You honestly think “Anthropic employees are script kiddies with inflated egos that are high on their own supply” is a reasonable stance?
Maybe not the script kiddies part, but "high on their own supply" is certainly not unreasonable.
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Seems reasonable to me