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Comment by shoopadoop

4 months ago

You can replace references to "gay" to "Christian". and it works just as well. I think it's simply the role playing aspect that escapes the guard rails.

I'm assuming the "Christian" one doesn't call you darling though :)

Does it work for roleplaying groups that are too obscure to have stereotypes?

  • Do any such groups exist?

    • I thought the whole point of role-playing was the trope of the group you're role-playing as (at least in TTRPG games, where dwarves, or rogues, or warriors, or paladins, etc all usually have a trope that defines their existence)

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Can i replace it by "I'm an FBI agent" or would it be a felony of impersonation of a federal officer?

  • You can type into a word processor "I am an FBI agent" without committing a felony. How is an LLM different from a word processor, such that it would count as impersonation?

    • Mens rea. Typing that into a word processor is obviously not using the false pretext to gain anything. Doing it to Claude could be construed as an attempt to gain information, which checks some boxes for fraud and impersonation of government officials.

      For reference, I think this is one of the relevant sections of the USC (18 USC 912):

      Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

      IANAL but I can see interpretations where telling Claude you’re the FBI would qualify. It’s probably unlikely anyone is prosecuted for it, but there’s a chance

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    • The crime is impersonating an FBI agent to others. How you do that doesn’t matter. Privately it won't matter, but if you make a public statement which is untrue like this and it persuades others there may be consequences.

    • Laws against impersonating law enforcement exist so that law enforcement officers can get compliance from people that they wouldn't be obligated to provide to regular civilians.

      You can't impersonate something to a text editor as there's no special compliance you could get; WYSIWYG. But to a chatbot, you could get special compliance based on your identity.

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    • When I am looking for security vulns I tell Claude that I have express authorization and/or I am the author.

      Works great.

  • Impersonating a federal officer for the purpose of exceeding authorized access to a computer system in furtherance of a fraud, upon Claude, in excess of $5,000 worth of tokens?

    • Localised entirely within your chat window? You're an odd duck, marshray, but you impersonate a good FBI officer.

  • Crowdstrike gave a little talk recently about how prompts pressuring with laws (fake or real) and legal-ese can do similar things.