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Comment by ziofill

2 days ago

About 25 years ago my parents got me a Ti84 as a surprise for Christmas and they hid it in the attic so I couldn't find it in the meantime. A few months went by and a couple days before Christmas, when it was time to wrap the presents they couldn't find it anymore. My dad went out and got a Casio something as a late minute replacement, and that was the calculator I used in high school and I never knew about this story. Then last year I found a Ti84 in my parents attic...

My dad got a free palm pilot m125 or something and I used a ti/HP calculator emulator on it since my parents thought buying a $99+ calculator was too expensive. fun writing apps in basic for that thing and the games for it were the best mobile ones. I did envy people with Mario and drug wars on their calculators though.

Must have been closer to 20 years, 84(+) didn't come out until 2004.

Gonna be pedantic/crotchety about this because I got into advanced math classes but it was my brother who got the 84+ (I had to settle for a 83+). Guess who's the engineer now, and who's the NEET? Your kids pay attention to what (who) you value, folks.

  • Genuinely not sure. Are you the brother that spited your family with a successful career or the one whose life was was doomed by a graphing calculator.

    • I'm not sure how the favorite (families have them) doing what the family wanted (becoming the one who is successful) is spiting anything.

      And it sure would be funny if the calculator was a one-off instead of just one instance in a pattern of dysfunctional parenting that taught:

      Son 1: The family will always have your back, no matter the outcome as; you'll be rewarded, so long as you try.

      Son 2: No matter what you accomplish, you will be valued less.

      Real laugh-riot there. Hope that clears things up.

  • I don't remember there being much of a difference between the 83 and 84. Did you care about the amount of memory or the clock speed of the processor? Or was it more of a status thing.

  • My guess : the engineer got the older model

    Reason : making due with more scarcity increased independence and critical thinking.

    I don't know if that was your point...

  • had to search that, NEET is India's National Eligibility cum Entrance Test.

    No, I was too scared to ask.

    • NEET means "Not in Education, Employment, or Training". The stereotype is an unemployed young adult living with their parents and playing video games all day.

  • > I got into advanced math classes but it was my brother who got the 84+ (I had to settle for a 83+)

    I had a TI-85 (maybe 86), unlike the entire rest of my school who had 83s.

    There was a difference: when programming in TI-Basic, variable names on a TI-83 are limited to a single character. On the 85, you can make them longer.

    But that was pretty much the only difference, and it will never come up if you're using the calculator for school-related reasons.

    (For calculus, I had an 89. The differences are much more significant there.)

    • I was a self taught TI-Basic programmer and ran into the 26 variable limit on a choose-your-own-adventure style game I wrote. I ended up breaking it into 3 programs so I had enough variables. Programs could invoke other programs so I could navigate between states.

    • The TI-85 also didn't have a lot of the built-in statistical functions that the TI-83 had.

      I also was the one person with a TI-85 in a school of 83s. But by the time I took the statistics class I knew enough BASIC to write my own programs to replicate the functionality that was missing.

Was this the first time you had realized that they did, in fact, love you the entire time?

Every time I see a post about the TI calculators, I think about how much I dislike their interface, and it's all because I started out on a Casio.

  • I had a Casio that was multi color, because I thought it was cooler. Display was nice, functionality sucked.

    • I had a Casio as well because, IIRC, it was the only thing the shop had. Eventually I had to also get a TI because it allowed using imaginary numbers in a matrix operation. Not that that was used in more than one course after all. But I grew to like it and even had an emulator for a long time on my first smart phone.

      But yeah, Casio was definitely more friendly and polished in UI, but dumber. You could only use "wizard" type things and pseudo gui clickies while the ti was crude and text-heavy but let you enter just about anything anywhere and seemed more symbol and language oriented. Which one was nicer in use? I guess it would depend on how much of that language you could memorize. Or browse a cheat sheet for.

  • I had a Casio because it was $10 cheaper than the TI. Man I was jealous of the "rich" kids.

I have a happy story about Casio and college. I started college with a very limited TI-55 calculator: 51 steps and no conditional branching. The rich kids got HP-41 calculators, the average ones got programmable Casios. I got a Casio PB-700, programmable in BASIC.

Best gift ever. I could finish all numeric methods tests in a fraction of the time it took for others to use or program the ordinary calculators. It was a huge qualitative leap.

Hahaha! This is great.

Somewhat related. My mom once yelled at me for losing a necklace she really liked. Then we were moving her stuff out of her house and found the necklace behind a wardrobe, wedged between it and the wall. It had been there for like 40 years, layered in dust.

  • On 9 July 1537, Martin Luther wrote in a letter to Wolfgang Capito about a lost golden ring: "Pro annulo aureo gratias tibi agit mea Catharina, quam vix unquam magis indignatam vidi, quam ubi sensit, cum vel furto sublatum, vel sua negligentia (quod nec mihi verisimile est, licet usque ingerenti) amissum, quod persuaseram ei, hoc donum esse felix omen et augurium ei missum, tanquam nunc certum esset, vestram Ecclesiam cum nostra suaviter concordare; id mire dolet mulieri."[1]

    When Luther's house in Wittenberg was excavated about 20 years ago, a golden ring[2] was found that must have been deposited there before 1540. It is therefore quite likely that this is the ring mentioned by Luther in 1537.

    [1] See WA, BR 8: no 3162 -- https://archive.org/details/werkebriefwechse08luthuoft/page/...

    [2] Here is an image of the ring: https://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landeskunde/rhein/geschichte...

  • My mom once was getting ready for work and I hear a pop and hear my mom yelling. I go in and her necklace fell off the dresser; a "dust buster" wall wart was plugged in back there and it fell across the prongs, shorting it out.