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Comment by uoaei

1 day ago

Europe is, compared to the US, doing a lot more for protection of private data. That includes strict guardrails on what data can be collected and how it is used.

Secret courts still exist but the phenomenon of random Flock employees spying on children in locker rooms at gyms is so much harder to get away with in a system with a modicum of decency.

Chat control was actually shot down, and that was the UK not Europe (anymore).

Laws are different in different places. The world is not composed of America and other-Americas.

Saying something was shot down isnt that strong of an argument. The US government has proposed and shot down surveillance laws hundreds of times, until one finally passes.

  • Ok, sure. You want more words to say the same thing, here you are.

    It got vociferous support from the highest levels of government even though the deception ("protect kids!") was so blatant and transparent, and it wasn't until a legion of privacy and in particular tech-literate advocates raised concerns in mass media together with an awareness campaign about the dangers of unchecked surveillance structures that it was finally... shot down.

    • I think the parent comment’s point was that unless it is made illegal, as in, a law is passed to make it so, it will come up again, and the “fight” has a shorter lifespan than the government.

      We have seen the same, or substantially similar, bills come up over and over. Most of the time, they are shot down, in the same manner you describe.

      But sometimes, there is a 9/11 and the Patriot act gets passed.

Chat Control was proposed and rejected in the European Union

  • You're right, mixed up the names, in UK they called it Online Safety Act.