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Comment by coliveira

11 hours ago

Both are terrible options, why should I root for one of them? Look what Israel is doing in Gaza, are they gonna be good for Iran now?

  > Look what Israel is doing in Gaza

Please do! Despite the slander media campaign that began along with the Hamas attacks on in October 2023, it is becoming clear by Hamas' own numbers that the Israeli operation in Gaza was more targetted against military personel than almost any war in history. In February 2026 the Gaza ministry of health - run by Hamas - reported a total of 70,000 deaths in Gaza since October 2023, including civilians. Of those:

    22,000-25,000 Hamas fighters
    11,000 natural deaths
    4,000 internal fighting amongst Gazans
    1,000 reporting errors

Breaking that down: 70,000 - 11,000 - 4,000 - 1,000 = 54,000. So of those 54,000 attributable to Israel 22,000 to 25,000 are Hamas - that would suggest a 54% to 60% civilian death toll. That is far, far lower than the 90% civilian death toll that is the norm in every single war, historic and contemporary.

Not to mention, that that 54% to 60% also includes the fighters for Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for Palestine Liberation, Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, Popular Resistance Committee, Mujahideen Brigades. None of those are civilians. So it's far more likely that the civilian death toll in Gaza was well under 50% - that's 1/9 the amount of civilians dying per combatant than seen in any other war.

  • The 90% figure is widely considered to be bullshit. Actual civilian-to-combatant ratios are around 1:1 in war, a la 50%. Granted, it's higher for urban warfare.