Comment by jjtheblunt

> All car so called German car manufacturers UX/UI is horrible to say the least.

What?

My BMW i4 has iDrive 8.5 and it's excellent, and i've had Mercedes and Audi and VW and Honda and SAAB.

the BMW and the 40 years ago SAAB (i bought it very used) both were easy to operate without looking away from the road.