Comment by whstl
5 hours ago
If anything, the current era looks like how 1995-2015 was for me.
Back then I was not in the “nitpicker’s radar” yet. I was working in small teams and shipping like crazy, sometimes fixing small bugs literally in seconds.
Things worked, were stable, made money, teams were fun and code and product had quality.
The post-Thoughtworks, post-Uncle-Bob world of 2015-2025 was absolute hell for a maker. It was 100% about performative quality. Everything was verbose and had to be by the book, even when it didn't make sense from an engineering or product point of view.
Different opinions were simply not accepted.
It was the age of bloat, of thousands of dependencies, of nitpicks, of infinite meetings, of quality in paper but not in practice, of doing overtime, of being on a fucking pager, of having CI/CD that took 10 hours to merge, and all the stress it comes with.
I would be totally ok if all those “professional” engineers from that generation were to be replaced with hackers, both old and new.
Nothing you describe is recognisable to me. It just seems like you chose to work at bad places.
That's the crazy thing about criticizing the industry in general: you can't really get away with it without someone calling you incompetent, point blank! :D
What I am describing here is FAANG (two of them) and every startup (two YC) or enterprise (a big Fintech) that copied it.
If you happen to "like it", perhaps it's time to think about accepting how other people don't.
I even prefaced it with "for me".
That was a low effort comment, I agree with you and I downvoted theirs. HN rules specify comments should drive the conversation forward. They used n=1 anecdata and called your employers bad places, oversimplifying the complexities into a simplistic 3 letter word.
Let’s keep the short caustic comments to ourselves people. The world is crazy enough without making other peoples days worse with drivel!
I recognise it from regularly talking with fellow programmers at the local tech meet-ups. At least in my area, the work places with result-oriented policies were and still are in the clear majority, and only big companies with likewise big financial reserves could afford to pursue the economically wasteful route of process-oriented policies.
Come on now. Even I know exactly what he's talking about and I have worked far and beyond all the craze of the real world, having mainly dedicated time to small dev shops in the past 2 decades.
No man, it's because of their poor ability to pick jobs, not because the other commenter was in a different niche or whatever than they are. It's absolutely not possible for 2 people to have a different experience, as there are at most 5 programmers in the entire world.
Or maybe you are part of the problem they are describing.