Comment by dwedge
14 hours ago
I've kept a spare cheap android for too long and recently went with Graphene instead. I have one Google profile and only use it for Uber, work's Google Chat and maps. One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank. I've moved most of my mobile use to self hosted (freshrss full text, password manager, calendar, tasks) with no direct internet connection.
It's a bit irritating but I'm glad I started down this journey because it looks more and more like I'm going to be avoiding the internet
> One bank refused to work (even with Google services) so I moved bank
Banks are implementing terrible "security" checks. Users of alternative OSes should be a lot more vocal: change bank, but also complain a lot to the offending one, and make sure to leave them a bad review on the Play Store.
Actually people not using an alternative OS but caring about that should also leave bad reviews to those banks on the Play Store.
At the end of the day, the problem comes from humans in those banks who don't understand and don't give a shit. The only way to make them care about it is to complain enough that it becomes their problem.
When I had a jailbroken iPhone my bank app (HSBC) would detect it and show a warning but let you continue anyway at your own risk, which I thought was a reasonable compromise
My setup is similar and nearly 100% self-hosted, including email, files, AI. If something does not work on Graphene, I will do without it. I also have a Google profile, mostly for testing purposes.
I said it already in another comment, but if you care enough to use GrapheneOS, I believe you should not only "do without it". You should also complain to those services.
If enough people complain, those services will start caring. If all they see is "one user complains every 3 years", they will just ignore it. That's how it works.
Ah yes, google, the company who notoriously doesn’t offer any customer support will definitely make way for such complaints.
How have you managed to accomplish self-hosted email? I tried similar in 2022 and found it damn near impossible without business static IP or a cloud provider.
You can't do it reliably without a static IP in a non residential subnet that lets you set reverse dns. If you have a static residential IP and they don't filter inbound SMTP you can make it work with a smarthost/relay like mailgun. Its not the insurmountable obstacle everyone makes it out to be, but its not going to be free unless you already have an IP that meets the criteria.
If you don't have a static IP you need will want to think about a MX relay service too ~ although mail is surprisingly tolerant of offline MX hosts if you can wait a little bit for your mail.
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A VPS or cheap dedicated is enough to get the static IP. I have very few problems with email, I use one VPS and one dedicated server though some zealots would argue a vps isn't self hosting
I have access to a commercial (non-residential), fixed IP. You could also use an outgoing relay as a compromise, since presumably the issue you are facing is other servers rejecting email that you send from a disreputable IP. That being said, you really want a fixed IP as a matter of convenience if you are going to self-host anything.
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If you don't mind me asking, what Bank? I've resolved that this phone will be my last googled phone, and my next will be GrapheneOS.
Halifax UK. It just refuses to work so I left it (Graphene is more secure, so forcing less security for the sake of tracking is off the cards). All the other banks so far say they won't work without Google services but if I click OK they work
Not OP, but I've been on GrapheneOS for a few years and I have no problem with Chase, CiT or Wealthfront. I mostly use them to check balances and unlock debit cards, but they all login and function fine.
Nice that there's bank to move to. We need regulations against such lock ups.
Forced 2FA for banking in the EU is making this worse when it doesn't work
What's the best alternative for Google drive? I also went this route but Samba is a bit annoying sometimes
What makes Samba annoying? I think it's perfect for its intended use (LAN).
If you need to share files externally, Nextcloud works very much like Google Drive and allows the creation of sharable links.
Nextcloud, Samba serving SMB isn't really equivalent.
I don't get how Samba is not there yet. We already have everything in the OS, the UI, the mental model, the protocols, how come it's such a terrible experience that we need to re-invent the wheel in web 2.0.. Maybe we need a Jarred Sumner to fix it.
Nextcloud also has lots of interesting plugins. I recently found a viable Splitwise alternative I chucked on my instance.
Syncthing is very nice.
Is not the same though. It requires downloading the entire shared folder. That doesn't work when I have 100+GB of files and I want to share it with my phone
I have nothing but issues with it, mostly because the iOS/Android apps are notoriously bad at syncing the files timely and also because of ridiculous filename restrictions on Android.
There is Peergos: https://peergos.org (disclaimer: I am the creator)
If you dont need filesharing, you can just setup wireguard, setup a network drive on your phone's files app.l, and then when connected it'll feel like native file browsing.
I only share with one person so we use Seafile