Comment by delusional
7 hours ago
> This is arguably much worse than allowing children to watch porn online, because this will for sure effect people's whole life in a negative way.
I would like you to make that argument.
7 hours ago
> This is arguably much worse than allowing children to watch porn online, because this will for sure effect people's whole life in a negative way.
I would like you to make that argument.
Parents can protect their children. Source: I’m a parent. My kids haven’t seen porn and can’t access the internet. This doesn’t affect the free exchange of ideas that my fellow countrymen enjoy.
Governments getting involved absolutely, unequivocally will be used to clamp down on the free exchange of ideas.
>My kids haven’t seen porn and can’t access the internet.
You sure about that? )))
That wasn't the point i was asking for an argument for. What I wanted to know is how age verification is worse then allowing children to watch porn. To make that argument.
> Source: I’m a parent. My kids haven’t seen porn and can’t access the internet.
Are they above the age of 16? Because then you're either Amish or out of touch.
Age verification isn't the problem. It is just a tool for censorship. It's censorship which is the problem.
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Nobody thought to protect western millennials from accidentally wandering across porn on the internet, and we mostly grew up ok
What argument?
You're the one that needs to argue the presence of harm, given you're the one arguing we need to create a surveillance dragnet to shield certain age groups of humans from witnessing how their species procreates.
The default state is that humans procreate via sexual reproduction. You need to argue why we need to take action to hide this, especially given we let children witness other far more brutal activities from the human species like violence.
> This is arguably much worse
Surely someone claiming it's arguable should be willing to make that argument.
For me it's not that it's reproduction. Film that shows sex is not an issue as I see it and I don't know anyone that has developed serious addictions to sex in Hollywood film. However I know several people, family members included, that have absolutely obliterated their childhoods and early adult years by becoming addicted to porn. They were groomed by adults online from a young age and, although their parents tried to stop it, kids are sneakier and they got around it, exposing themselves to some truly dark things. It is not easy for families to recover from having dealt with a child with serious addiction issues.
I think it's pretty silly to argue that systemic protections are ineffective and overreach whereas the efforts of one or two parents should be enough and are the correct level of enforcement for the protection of children. The parents of the people I know went to extremes to protect their children and they were mostly unsuccessful.
Sounds like the people you describe were outliers with some preexisting conditions, and probably shouldn't be used as any sort of baseline or point of comparison.
The argument I am asking him to make is the one about how age verification is "much worse" than "allowing children to watch porn".
If your argument in favor of that is that watching porn isn't harmful to children, then I don't understand what all that superfluous waffling about china is doing in there.