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Comment by wiseowise

6 days ago

> It's the whole damn point.

Believe it or not, for some of us it’s not “the whole damn point”.

Whether or not you want to admit that is up to you. If you're selling automation or efficiency gains, you're removing human labor.

The purpose of a system is what it does. If people constantly use your device to turn kittens into pulp, you have built a kitten grinder, even if the label you slapped on the side says "coffee beans only".

  • Nonsense. By your logic anything pointy is a killer machine, because people constantly use them to kill.

    • If that's constantly the thing your device is constantly used for... yes?

Why else would one create software, if not to do something that a human does/did?

  • A few off the top of my head:

    - Video games

    - Medical device firmware

    - Synthesizers

    - Detailed universe-scale physics simulations

    - Mars rover control software

    - The Linux kernel

    • - Video games - only feasible because of computers.

      - Medical device firmware - hardware control layer for medical devices, which are used to aid in medical procedures.

      - Synthesizers - help to make music.

      - Detailed universe-scale physics simulations - help to make certain physics problems more tractable.

      - Mars rover control software - helps to remote control rovers.

      - The Linux kernel - control layer that sits between firmware and actual applications, pretty much just a common shared library so apps don't have to each ship with a full stack.

      I don't really see your point here. None of these examples counter the argument that software is created to automate human labour as much as is practical.

      Video games are an interesting category since they're entirely enabled by software: I can't imagine anyone driving a video game manually (note I don't consider things like Chess, etc software to be video games in this context; more things like FPS, racing, etc). I do remember as a kid I thought that there were actually little people doing the stuff in video games though.

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  • To do things that a human could have done in theory, but did not do because it would have been too expensive.