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Comment by 01100011

10 hours ago

I think it came from peaceniks and hippies mostly. You're talking about the equivalent of modern anti-vax liberals. Anti-science and given to conspiracies and mysticism.

There was a pretty good reason to be scared of nukes when these folks were children in the 50s. The world was quite a different place back then. The US was lagging behind the Soviets, militarily speaking, and Communism was much more expansionary.

> There was a pretty good reason to be scared of nukes when these folks were children in the 50s

Yes, but I think if you asked which country was more likely to "push the button" in the 50s-70s it would have been the US, and the extent to which the US continued invasions after the collapse of the USSR kind of vindicates that.

> The US was lagging behind the Soviets, militarily speaking

I don't think this was ever true except in the least useful measure, raw headcount of conscripts.

> anti-vax liberals

Just a small correction, but the anti-vax arguments are very conservative, not liberal.

  • hate to tell you this, but there's a whole contingent of "granola moms" who won't vax their children. They're the same people that subscribe to those teething stones that are really only a strangulation risk.

    • Yep, and a lot of what they say is deeply conspiratorial conservative rhetoric.

      They may be self described liberal, but their actions certainly aren't.

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  • There are both liberal and conservative strains of anti-vaccination sentiment that have been more or less prominent at various times.

  • There is undeniably a middle class anti vax wellness leftist movement whether it was originally conservative or not, unfortunately.

    • > wellness leftist movement

      Hang on, are we talking about liberal or leftist now?

      Because a lot of these hoax "wellness" movements are conservative. Distrusting science and things you don't understand is a conservative mindset.

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> You're talking about the equivalent of modern anti-vax liberals. Anti-science and given to conspiracies and mysticism

In 2026 this is decidedly a more conservative stance. They installed RFK Jr., who in addition to Wakefield, is the antivax guy. MAHA specifically (can’t believe they actually stuck with that acronym) is overwhelmingly Republican dominated/supported.