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Comment by profsummergig

11 hours ago

> "most Americans of their intelligence would be aware"

that would still leave up to 49% Americans not being aware. so how did you conclude that they were not Americans? Also, how did you measure their intelligence?

> "slightly more common among immigrant families than locals"

even if true, how did you conclude that these were not Americans?

> "Americans, on average, are more individualist and hesitate more when asked by family to do something criminal"

even if on average Americans are more so, how did you conclude that these were not Americans?

> "A lot of immigrants eventually adopt anglicised names"

from your sentence it seems a lot of them don't. so how did you conclude that these were not Americans?

It would be a disaster for immigrants in your area if you were ever hired into some kind of investigative/law enforcement role.

> that would still leave up to 49% .... how did you conclude?

This fundamentally misunderstands how predictive models work. A parameter is a potentially useful predictor if it's better than excluding it 50.000001% of the time (high frequency trading is good evidence of this).

> conclude

Conclusions? Absolutely not. Higher statistical probability? Yes. Based on evidence. To state your point, which is bleeding obvious, of course you cannot know how recently someone or their family came to America based only on their behaviour with regard to the law. But their behaviour with regard to the law absolutely can be a useful predictor.

(in fact, it's precisely this rationale that justifies in some cases giving foreigners lighter sentences where 'their culture' allowed for xyz but the local jurisdiction doesn't - roadrules in the UK is a pretty good example: local truck drivers get the full penalty; those from continental Europe often do not, since road rules are less likely to be known by them)

Alternate example: ask a Western drug smuggler busted in Indonesia or Vietnam how long they expected their jail sentence to be if caught (spoiler - it's a trick question: they'll say 3-5 years and instead are met with the death penalty; whereas most locals are well aware of this) - ignorance to local laws and customs does correlate with how long someone (or their family) has lived in the area, if at all.