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Comment by dist-epoch

6 days ago

It will literally eat the world. Just like we crowded out wild animals in a few reserved areas, so will AI data centers crowd us out.

To quite Ilya Sutskever:

> I think it’s pretty likely the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

Or we could not do that...

Technology is meant to serve us not drive us into a hellscape lol

  • What's wrong with that? There are now materials that allow you to have solar panels on a window (so they are not opaque anymore), and we can put data centers under our feet.

    • Did you read the original comment?

      > AI data centers crowd us out.

      > the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

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  • In the current system technology is meant to serve the shareholders. That might end up serving us, if you believe the standard narrative. But maybe the shareholders will just carve out a few nature reserves for themselves and just wait for the rest of us to die off.

  • "we"? Are we all now billionaires who decide what gets built and who gets laid off?

    None of "us" gets to decide this. Only the very wealthy get to decide.

> AI data centers crowd us out.

Here's a test to know if this is/will be true: look for a situation where the "needs" of AI (e.g. land, electricity, etc) conflict with the needs of people (e.g. land to live on, grow food on, electricity to light our homes).

Find a place where the needs of AI conflict with people, and observe who wins out.

Does the entity that owns the datacenter say, "oh sorry! I guess we're using too much electricity. No worries! We'll stop doing that" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, all the electricity belongs to us!"

Does the entity wanting to build a datacenter say, "oh sorry! We thought you'd be okay with us using this land. But if you're not that's okay, we wont build here" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, we own the government and they're seizing the land under eminent domain!"

(both of these scenarios have happened, btw)

> To quite Ilya Sutskever:

Who made Ilya Sutskever, or any other LLM-bonehead the Grand Prophet of Humanity? Why the fuck is his opinion on that relevant? Of course he will shill for data centers.