Comment by 0x262d
6 hours ago
I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point. I moved to android as a more open alternative to apple just a few years ago, and to bitwarden from lastpass around the same time. I would like to just have these infrastructural services work well and quietly without thinking about them for many years. Do I really have to put up with this happening faster and faster for the rest of capitalism? (I think so)
>Do I really have to put up with this happening faster and faster for the rest of capitalism? (I think so)
no, if you relax the qualifier "without thinking" slightly and are okay with thinking for a few hours. There's so many off-the-shelf open source solutions now to just throw on a 5 bucks VPS, it costs you less time and money than switching or the premium plan of most of these individual services.
Bitwarden hasn’t “enshittified” anything. It’s all entirely speculative
Looks pretty bad regardless of speculation. There are enough red flags to warrant actions and to consider this another enshitification.
It has already enshitified. These changes are text book.
- Inclusion and Transparency values made more shitty
- Always free commitment removed. What? It’s right there “always”.
- Shittily hacking old blog post to become nonsensical
- Loss of confidence
- Stalling improvement cycle, no more repairs, just things quietly breaking and going bad.
I don’t wait for companies to enshittify anymore. When they start making decisions that look like they’re heading in that direction, I start looking for alternatives.
Same. Whenever I see a PE acquisition, I immediately shift my purchases (eg namecheap last year)
yet. The hallmarks of enshittification are there. We've all been through the cycle of "this product is too good to be true, and provides considerably more value than it costs" "Customer Acquisition/Market Capture" phase. And we know what has to come next. They have to make the product profitable, because you cant just burn up VC money forever.
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Interesting, where are you from? Where does this proverb come from?
I know this proverb as (translating from Polish): You're asking the boar if he's shitting in the forest.
Vendors doing a rug-pull isn't just capitalism. China is adding DRM to AM radio: old receivers won't work. Heck, Soviet WWII ration cards no longer give turmips.
uh, by DRM you mean Digital Radio Mondiale[0], an open digital radio broadcasting standard? sure analog receivers won't work, but hardly a rugpull lol
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale
Yeah? That has to be the worst possible acronym for an open thing.
They're not doing it to increase margin. "Enshittification" or "rug-pulls" aren't when things get worse or things change, they're when the conditions that were used to attract an audience are changed in order to extract more margin after that audience is captured.
The larger exampls to compare them to would be "dumping." Dump subsidized, tariff-free corn in Mexico to make it unprofitable to farm corn in Mexico, and after all of the Mexican farmers go bust, buy their land and raise the price of corn to infinity while cheaping out on the quality of seed and handling. Enshittification. Rug-pull.