← Back to context Comment by vessenes 6 days ago Spicy — why does it show ultimate non-understanding? 2 comments vessenes Reply JohnKemeny 5 days ago because success comes from reproducing a memorized pattern rather than transferable reasoning?At the same time failure proves little because most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.What is it exactly that such a test is testing?In which situation would you measure the "competence" of a human being by asking them to write an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle? okamiueru 4 days ago > most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.Most humans absolutely can write this with a suitable vector graphics tool such as inkscape or illustrator.Surely, you're not suggesting that a fair comparison would be using a text editor?If so, would you suggest an equivalent raster based task would only be fair, if the human would manually assigning RGB values to each pixel?
JohnKemeny 5 days ago because success comes from reproducing a memorized pattern rather than transferable reasoning?At the same time failure proves little because most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.What is it exactly that such a test is testing?In which situation would you measure the "competence" of a human being by asking them to write an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle? okamiueru 4 days ago > most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.Most humans absolutely can write this with a suitable vector graphics tool such as inkscape or illustrator.Surely, you're not suggesting that a fair comparison would be using a text editor?If so, would you suggest an equivalent raster based task would only be fair, if the human would manually assigning RGB values to each pixel?
okamiueru 4 days ago > most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.Most humans absolutely can write this with a suitable vector graphics tool such as inkscape or illustrator.Surely, you're not suggesting that a fair comparison would be using a text editor?If so, would you suggest an equivalent raster based task would only be fair, if the human would manually assigning RGB values to each pixel?
because success comes from reproducing a memorized pattern rather than transferable reasoning?
At the same time failure proves little because most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.
What is it exactly that such a test is testing?
In which situation would you measure the "competence" of a human being by asking them to write an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle?
> most humans also could not manually create a correct SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle.
Most humans absolutely can write this with a suitable vector graphics tool such as inkscape or illustrator.
Surely, you're not suggesting that a fair comparison would be using a text editor?
If so, would you suggest an equivalent raster based task would only be fair, if the human would manually assigning RGB values to each pixel?