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Comment by hollowturtle

5 days ago

>> But we should stop talking about 1s and 0s

> I agree, but you contradicted yourself just one line above.

>> > For generating production code even with a lot of steering and baby sitting? Absolutely not

with this last sentence I obviously meant in my experience, it's not that hard. I don't buy your facts are highly biased towards web development, that's a common mistake here on HN to think it's the totality of the industry, luckily it's not

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epolanski  5 days ago

I've quoted you two tools (Ghostty and Redis) whose development now regularly uses AI assistance to deliver production code. I quoted those because their authors shared their experiences, the strengths and the limits of the tooling.

There's many more, from Flask to Docker, from Ruby to FastAPI or Tanstack. LLVM has integrated AI-generated PRs, so did Swift and Mojo. Sasha Levin has pushed into Linux Nvidia-related kernel changes that were authored by LLMs in 6.15. You can be certain there's a magnitude more where people don't admit or tag their PRs as AI generated or co-generated.

In fact I am quite confident that projects and developers that are not leveraging the tools are increasingly rare. There's really no reason in 2026 to write a non-trivial PR and not ask a cheap review to an AI tool.

The industry is changing, I don't really like the trends I'm seeing, but to state that LLMs cannot and are not writing production code, very often quality ones, (especially when used, setup and overviewed properly) is plain denial.

Your anecdotal experience isn't relevant, especially when applied to the largest parts of the industry, composed of mediocre developers working on terrible codebases.

  • hollowturtle  5 days ago

    You cited mostly web tech, which proves my point ;) Is antirez uses extensively agents to contribute to redis doesn't mean it's a becoming industry trend. I'd say quite the contrary, it isn't in the gaming industry for example, where novel ideas matter. And btw Antirez and Linus for example, put a lot of effort into steering agent into doing the right thing for them which is totally different than "these tools become just good"

    • epolanski  5 days ago

      Half the projects I listed are system's programming related.

      In general you do seem to be unaware of the trend.

      And I want to stress it out: I'm not stoked for the trend or changes, but I'm not blind either.

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