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Comment by NitpickLawyer

16 hours ago

And then regulatory capture it to death. Seriously, Anthropic is top notch in their coding models, but they are not the good guys in the tech vs. product for humanity's sake debate.

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dwa3592  15 hours ago

yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'. Anyone who wants to become a monopoly or very very large is probably suffering from some sort of a neural condition (psychosis, if plural) which we will study 100 years from now. Right now they are rewarded but I think our little minds forget to take the negative externalities into account.

I am working on a short story on this topic which is set in 2100s, where most humans have internalized the concept of 'having enough' after the great conflict. But some specimen have started to show signs of this syndrome again, and neuroscientists and psychologists are grappling to understand where it originated from.

  • amunozo  14 hours ago

    The difference is that Anthropic pretend they're the good guys, while the rest don't.

    • clbrmbr  7 hours ago

      Come on, Anthropic ARE the good guys if there are any. Certainly the incentives of trillions will do what money does, but they have assembled an incredibly altruistic and philosophically-minded crew. I’m rooting for them and trying real hard not to get cynical.

  • CamperBob2  12 hours ago

    yeah but i don't think there's any large org which is 'good guys'.

    There are several. They're in China, releasing competitive open-weight models on a regular basis.

    • signatoremo  5 hours ago

      I thought "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product" is the most accepted wisdom on HN? At least when it comes to services from FB or Google. But if that comes from China they are the "good guys"?

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    • xp84  9 hours ago

      Ah yes, the famous altruistic China, no profit or geopolitical/national security motives, doing it all purely for the love of the game.

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soundworlds  8 hours ago

Totally. They are the only ones who said no to letting their tech being used for illegal use cases.

This doesn't automatically make them the great virtuous team. It just means the rest of the pack are toxic as all hell.

  • jazzyjackson  7 hours ago

    They didn’t even take the position that it was unethical to participate in surveillance and kill chains, just that the tech isn’t ready yet so it’s irresponsible to use it that way.

    • radlad  4 hours ago

      The position they took sounds much more politically feasible than the one you suggest they should've taken, at a time when the White House was threatening them with the Defense Production Act.

signatoremo  5 hours ago

No such thing as good or bad guys in business, only good or bad action. If you NitpickLawyer has a business, I'm sure there will be people calling for your head, no matter what your intentions are. The bigger the customer base the more "evil" you'd become. Everyone have their own interest which often conflict.