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Comment by isodev

8 hours ago

> you are the product

Then we need to have a discussion about that because in case of Vivaldi you are in fact not the product.

Happy to discuss.

I'm not sure if this [1] is still relevant, but it appears that Vivaldi makes money by promoting search engines and bookmarks to their users via their closed source, secret, Chromium fork.

If my usage of their Chromium clone is being used to sell search engines/website bookmarks, then I am indeed the product.

There does also seem to be a VPN option on their site that I'm assuming I can pay for, which seems it could be an actually buyable product rather than selling my usage of their browser.

1. https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

> in case of Vivaldi you are in fact not the product

I’m really curious what gave you this impression. Vivaldi doesn’t hide its business model, yet you were so confident!