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Comment by ZeWaka

3 days ago

Still have the issue of transferring tickets to friends or such if you can't make it. Axios and some providers handle this.

Anything requiring transferring "to friends" will be attempted to be used for scalping of course.

I suppose if we're requiring showing ID to attend anyway, it's not a lot worse to add an online ID verification step in order to be allowed to be a "sender" in the transfer system, and an identity is only allowed to have like 5 distinct "friends" in a rolling 12-month window.

Part of me thinks that Ticketmaster/Live Nation probably makes so much money from their own in-house scalping operation that they don't want to fix any kind of scalping problems for fear they would be somehow obligated to not participate themselves.

  • > Part of me thinks that Ticketmaster/Live Nation probably makes so much money from their own in-house scalping operation that they don't want to fix any kind of scalping problems for fear they would be somehow obligated to not participate themselves.

    My dad used to joke about how many signs he'd say at baseball games saying scalping is against the rules but somehow hearing loads of StubHub ads whenever he would listen to a game on the radio.

Transferring tickets to friends is functionally indistinguishable from scalping

  • The problem with scalping is scale. A single person reselling a single ticket is completely fine, because that is not a viable business model for enough people to distort the market. Just limit the number of tickets someone can buy to 3-5.

    • A scalper just pretends to be 200 different people. With 200 different emails and 200 different credit cards.

      Limiting the number of tickets someone can buy doesn't protect against scalping.

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  • isn’t scalping selling at profit? if i sell to a friend at the same i paid it’s not really scalping …

    • Yes, but you can't know if the transfer happens at a profit. You can always ask the person to pay you extra on top of a "monitored" transfer.

      UEFA limits this for football games by allowing you to purchase only two tickets and changing only one name, and the two tickets must go together. Or you sell back the ticket to the organization and they sell it back to random fans.

Would need to provide a decent refund system alongside named tickets, offering quick and easy refunds for maybe 10% cancellation fee.

Handle it the same way airlines do. If you think you might not be able to go, then pay extra for a refundable ticket.

If you "can't make it", you just have to eat the loss. True fans will make it.

  • True fans don't have any loved ones fall ill? Or get called to work against their will?

    • If something happens to your family, maybe the last thing you should think about is grieving that you lost some juicy, juicy money on tickets which you couldn't use?

  • I've missed concerts due to delayed/cancelled plane flights or other booked transportation.

    Darn, guess I'm not a true fan or I would've booked a private jet.

    • It's not your fault. But it's not their fault either. It's the same for events as for most other reservations: You don't get your money back if you miss it.